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The problem is semi-modernist JPII couldn't write Total modernist heretic Francis Amoris and Leo supports AL. Dr K can only be right if Leo recants AL, and Francis other heresies etc..: Peter Kwasniewski 13h · I think if people viewed Leo XIV as being rather like John Paul II

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Peter Kwasniewski

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I think if people viewed Leo XIV as being rather like John Paul II—with all the good and the bad this implies—rather than as the long-awaited pope who will "scour the Shire," they would be a lot less disappointed, and a lot more able to roll with the punches, and even appreciate the good as it comes.
Every pope since Vatican II has been a mixed bag except for Francis (whom I don't see as a mixed bag, but as an unmixed catastrophe). All of them have promoted wonky interreligious dialoguing, for example; that is "par for the course." To express shock or horror at this is like expressing surprise that movies nowadays are usually dumb, tasteless, and offensive.
What interests me more, as someone thinking in terms of decades-long dynamics and the slow rebuilding of the Church at the grassroots level, is the tone of the pontificate, the atmosphere, the ambiance, the signaling, the kind of space opened up by the pontiff's way of managing. Let's put it this way: the moment a pope wears a nice vestment, thousands of sacristies open up across the world and nice vestments are brought out again. That small ripple effect, if it happens over and over, will have more consequence in the long run than handshakes with orange-clad Tibetan monks or whatever the meeting du jour is at the Vatican.
This may sound cynical, as if I'm downplaying or evacuating the significance of what the pope is saying/doing. Rather, I'm merely pointing out that what will be most decisive in the long run is not the easily forgotten daily agenda at the Vatican, but the sense transmitted by the pope of what can and cannot, should or should not, be done at the local level. In regard to that sphere, it's fair to say that we've already seen a bit of a positive "Leo effect," and I expect it to continue.
Even simply the relief at no longer having Fearful Francis around is enough to make some bishops relax, and some priests step up their game.
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Peter Kwasniewski

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I think if people viewed Leo XIV as being rather like John Paul II—with all the good and the bad this implies—rather than as the long-awaited pope who will "scour the Shire," they would be a lot less disappointed, and a lot more able to roll with the punches, and even appreciate the good as it comes.
Every pope since Vatican II has been a mixed bag except for Francis (whom I don't see as a mixed bag, but as an unmixed catastrophe). All of them have promoted wonky interreligious dialoguing, for example; that is "par for the course." To express shock or horror at this is like expressing surprise that movies nowadays are usually dumb, tasteless, and offensive.
What interests me more, as someone thinking in terms of decades-long dynamics and the slow rebuilding of the Church at the grassroots level, is the tone of the pontificate, the atmosphere, the ambiance, the signaling, the kind of space opened up by the pontiff's way of managing. Let's put it this way: the moment a pope wears a nice vestment, thousands of sacristies open up across the world and nice vestments are brought out again. That small ripple effect, if it happens over and over, will have more consequence in the long run than handshakes with orange-clad Tibetan monks or whatever the meeting du jour is at the Vatican.
This may sound cynical, as if I'm downplaying or evacuating the significance of what the pope is saying/doing. Rather, I'm merely pointing out that what will be most decisive in the long run is not the easily forgotten daily agenda at the Vatican, but the sense transmitted by the pope of what can and cannot, should or should not, be done at the local level. In regard to that sphere, it's fair to say that we've already seen a bit of a positive "Leo effect," and I expect it to continue.
Even simply the relief at no longer having Fearful Francis around is enough to make some bishops relax, and some priests step up their game.
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Peter Kwasniewski
I could have also invoked Martin Mosebach, who says that the "externals" of Catholicism are anything but merely external: they are the flesh of the soul of the religion. So a pope wearing good papal vestments, or chanting Latin at the Mass again, isn't… 
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Joe Garbarino
Now is no time to relax. The time to pray harder and press( with good manners ) forward !
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Shirley DeMedina
So far, so good! I would just like to see of the displaced consecrated returned to their calling.
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Mary Ann
God allows these things for a reason….expect nothing, keep praying and preaching the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ and explaining Catholic Doctrine. Let the Lord use each of us to assist Him in saving souls. There is truly nothing else we can do …regardl… 
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Id Dogboss
I have to agree with you, Dr. Peter Kwasniewski. Much as I would love to have the pope of the restoration in my time, I must resolve to wait for the timing of God. But I must continue to pray and hope.
Mark OKane
This thought did cross my mind- maybe he’s like a John Paul II for our current time, especially as he was widely apparently considered a “compromise candidate” during the conclave.
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Pavel Zahradník
I think it's important to be patient when judging. Everyone is so eager for hints...
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Kieren Jackson
Your readers may find this article in an online diocesan newspaper interesting. A priest dismissing those who had concerns about Pope Francis telling people we are wrong to feel relief that it is over.
I dont think clergy should gate keep peoples emot… 
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Fray Eric
Agree with this and prior statements. The withering parts must fall off, leaving the tree looking almost completely bare, but then the vital parts that were small and overshadowed can now blossom unimpeded by what used to be but is no more.
Kinsey Marshall
I remember the heady days of the early 70s. I had only very vague memories of pre novus ordo. I remember everything being in flux. I remember when Paul VI died and the short reign of John Paul I. I remember the hope when John Paul II 's pontificate sta… 
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Michał Romańczuk
my sentiments exactly. it will also be interesting to see how Leo XIV handles the impending SSPX ordinations. hopefully more gracefully than JPII...
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Susan Yerby
That's exactly how I've been feeling.
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Mark W. Ingoglio
I think your age group matters.
If you actually lived through the JPII papacy from start to close, that's a whole lot different than catching the last few years only, or relying on others to tell you about something of which you have no conscious memo… 
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Dylan Kulbok
Vestments are more important to you than human communion across cultures and faiths? Praise God that this perspective is niche and dying. May it die quickly. God bless our Holy Fathers Francis and Leo for not giving in to the pressure of people like this.
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Bethany Ocken
Amen!
Joe Spiering
We should not forget that Pope Francis (for whatever reason) did help tradition by fully recognizing marriages and confessions for the SSPX. Requiescat in pace.
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Christopher Ekstrom
You have formulated our Best Hopes for Pope Leo. Perhaps the Holy Spirit Works on him…but if Pope Leo fails our Holy Church; #SSPX will stand strong & Defend the Faith!
Rex Teodosio
From cautiously optimistic to simply cautious. Credit and resistance whenever either is due.
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David M Williams
Some people want to endlessly complain and find every reason to be depressed. It's kind of as simple as that.
It's time for optimism.
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Mark Anchor Albert
I totally agree. The BIG MOVE I am hoping for, and feel cautiously optimistic about:
Revoking or modifying or rolling back Tradionis Custodes. Lord: hear our prayers! Amen.
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Chris Waloven
I agree
James Schumacher
Few things in history were more surprising than the revival of European Catholicism in the 19th Century. Popes did not cause the marvelous things that happened at Oxford, Lourdes, Ars, Turin, Lisieux, Germany (the Catholic surge that defeated Bismar… 
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Robert Norman
Peter Kwasniewski How much of a mixed bag was Benedict XVI in your view?
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Robert Beaurivage
As a Catholic, I think shock and horror at interreligious dialogue along with all it entails is always an appropriate response, even after witnessing it for sixty years, as I have. Shock and horror is not the same as despair, which we have no reason to… 
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Stephen Peterson
We’re not going to get a pope that will set things right overnight. The restoration will be a long and gradual process. People need to set their expectations accordingly.
The restoration of the liturgy is vital and necessary, but is only one part of t… 
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Adam Schwend
As I have said since Francis died - I prayed for a pope who wouldn’t try to actively close my parish down and who didn’t demonstrably hate me. Beyond that, all is gravy.
Has Leo said things I wouldn’t? Sure. But his words have been measured.… 
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Lisa Nicholas
Every person has strengths and weaknesses, and we need to acknowledge and accept that. IMO, this tendency to micro-analyze and judge every thing that public figures do contravenes charity, as well as being crazy-making.
So far, I am nothing but encou… 
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John Reinert
Just get back to the fundamentals. Teach. Starting with the Liturgy. That’s why I attend the SSPX.
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Ken Foye
Remove restrictions on the TLM, articulate the authentic Catholic faith without the ambiguity and confusion, and for the love of God stop doing in-flight press conferences.
If he does those things, then as for the rest ... we can probably live with it.
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Liesa Gonzalez
Precisely.
Liza Rafe
And then you have those who are never happy and would complain about anything put in front of them. Much like the "performative humility" of Francis, the constant state of angst is a sign of superiority and hubris that really isn't spiritually (or otherwise) healthy.
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Fr. Joseph Faulkner
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Gregory DiPippo
I have been saying for 12+ years to anyone who would listen that the most important difference between JP2 and B16 on the one hand, and Francis on the other, was not their ages, but their dates of ordination:
JP2 - 1947
B16 - 1951… 
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Nicholas Shaler
I am hopeful for this pontificate because Pope Leo will not be crushing good things which are organically developing.
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Josefina Da Fonte Hanson
It's such a breath of fresh air to listen to your commentary.
Mirza B. Cairo
Praying for Pope Leo..I am happy but cautious
Michael Sirilla
Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking today. But he's a bit further down from JPII on interreligious dialogue and appointing women as heads of Roman dicasteries.
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Neil Miggins
Fearful Francis indeed. No more walking on eggshells around a Benzo-popping Pontiff..
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Carrie Schaefer
Just the break from being mocked, lied to, told we are "not part of the parish," etc. is like moving from an abusive home to a neutral foster situation.
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Michael Shurtleff
SMH at the naivete of those who were expecting a Pius XIII or an Athanasius. It's going to be a few more generations yet...
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Maureen Latimer Brody
A frog in a pot
James Metcalfe
I have no problem with dialogue with other religions with the purposes of true evangelization to bring them into the Church Christ founded! Where it has gone demonically astray is when that needed mindset is discouraged and repudiated! When an Amazonia… 
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Valeria Kondratiev
A pope who starts his reign with a very traditional blessing and a Hail Mary, and who sings the Regina Coeli is more than good enough for me. God bless him
Richard R. Pettys Jr.
I believe that Leo XIV will be theologically and liturgically traditional but will be more progressive on social issues. He will be much like Leo XIII.
Deacon Timothy Woods
Agreed. I saw Pope Leo give his homily with his notes in his hand. Now I'm doing the same thing!
Robert F. Siegmund
Peter Kwasniewski. I think this is a good "take". We should all remember Pope John Paul II. ist a SAINT.
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Stephen C Wendt
Unmixed catastrophe is correct.
Susan Holmes
I think you are exactly right!
Debra Brunsberg
I think it is watch and wait. I must say that the little I have seen (I am afraid to search out things) I have been happy with.
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Ryan Logan
I stand with the SSPX position that no Pope has the authority to suppress the Tridentine Mass.In perhaps 10 years the SSPX will have 1000 priests.
Casey Como
PLEASE BEWARE
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Kelly McCoy Linn
I think people expect the new Popes should all of a sudden be Traditionalist. 🤦🏼‍♀️ The church has been in a crisis for 60+ years, it's going to take a lot more prayers and sacrifices made by the church militant before God gives us a truly good Holy Ca… 
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Nadia Weer
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Wendy Baumann Krzyzanowski
Pope Leo gets a Latin Mass. why should be we all be able to access one freely, without driving miles?
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Gradlon Lugh
Very much of the worst people within the bishops came from JPII papacy.
Yolanda Molinaris
Exactly

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