If romantic relationships is the reason for gay marriage then pedophiles
(adult/children) marriage and animal/human marriage are next so long as
there is a romantic relationship.
http://www.bookerrising.net/2008/11/thomas-sowell-on-affirmative-action-gay.html
Affirmative Action & Gay Marriage
The conservative commentator sure is a busy man, with two op-ed pieces today. He argues that affirmative action and gay marriage are special privileges, not rights: "Equality of rights does not mean equality of results. I can have all the equal treatment in the world on a golf course and I will not finish within shouting distance of Tiger Woods. When arbitrary numerical 'goals' or 'quotas' under affirmative action are not met, the burden of proof is put on the employer to prove that he did not discriminate against minorities or women. No burden of proof whatever is put on the advocates of 'goals' or 'quotas' to show that people would be equally represented in jobs, colleges, or anywhere else in the absence of discrimination."
He adds: "The question is not whether gays should be permitted to marry. Many gays have already married people of the opposite sex. Conversely, heterosexuals who might want to marry someone of the same sex in order to make some point will be forbidden to do so, just as gays are. The real issue is whether marriage should be redefined — and, if for gays, why not for polygamists? Why not for pedophiles? Despite heavy television advertising in California for 'gay marriage,' showing blacks being set upon by police dogs during civil-rights marches, and implying that homosexuals face the same discrimination today, the analogy is completely false. Blacks had to sit in the back of the bus because they were black. They were doing exactly what white people were doing — riding a bus. That is what made it racial discrimination. Marriage is not a right but a set of legal obligations imposed because the government has a vested interest in unions that, among other things, have the potential to produce children, which is to say, the future population of the nation."
My response: I concur with Mr. Sowell on affirmative action. However, I tackle the issue from the standpoint of black competence and self-esteem - my black nationalist side raises an eyebrow when it is explicitly or implicitly argued that standards have to be lowered for blacks - while Mr. Sowell is concerned about color-blind merit. I disagree with him on gay marriage though. And yes, the law should also allow polygamy. If a man wants to marry a woman, a man, two women, two men, or a man and a woman, how is that the business of government or other people if everyone consents to the arrangement? Pedophilia involves children, so consenting adults are not the issue there. Mr. Sowell's bus analogy is also weak, because one can argue that whether heterosexual, bisexual, or homosexual, everyone is doing exactly the same thing: being in romantic relationships and/or getting laid. As longtime readers know, I cannot have children. Using Mr. Sowell's logic, I shouldn't be allowed to get married because the union is absolutely guaranteed to not produce children. What about infertile couples? Should, say, actors Angela Bassett and Courtney Vance been prohibited from getting married?
Posted by Shay at 11/04/2008
http://www.bookerrising.net/2008/11/thomas-sowell-on-affirmative-action-gay.html
Affirmative Action & Gay Marriage
The conservative commentator sure is a busy man, with two op-ed pieces today. He argues that affirmative action and gay marriage are special privileges, not rights: "Equality of rights does not mean equality of results. I can have all the equal treatment in the world on a golf course and I will not finish within shouting distance of Tiger Woods. When arbitrary numerical 'goals' or 'quotas' under affirmative action are not met, the burden of proof is put on the employer to prove that he did not discriminate against minorities or women. No burden of proof whatever is put on the advocates of 'goals' or 'quotas' to show that people would be equally represented in jobs, colleges, or anywhere else in the absence of discrimination."
He adds: "The question is not whether gays should be permitted to marry. Many gays have already married people of the opposite sex. Conversely, heterosexuals who might want to marry someone of the same sex in order to make some point will be forbidden to do so, just as gays are. The real issue is whether marriage should be redefined — and, if for gays, why not for polygamists? Why not for pedophiles? Despite heavy television advertising in California for 'gay marriage,' showing blacks being set upon by police dogs during civil-rights marches, and implying that homosexuals face the same discrimination today, the analogy is completely false. Blacks had to sit in the back of the bus because they were black. They were doing exactly what white people were doing — riding a bus. That is what made it racial discrimination. Marriage is not a right but a set of legal obligations imposed because the government has a vested interest in unions that, among other things, have the potential to produce children, which is to say, the future population of the nation."
My response: I concur with Mr. Sowell on affirmative action. However, I tackle the issue from the standpoint of black competence and self-esteem - my black nationalist side raises an eyebrow when it is explicitly or implicitly argued that standards have to be lowered for blacks - while Mr. Sowell is concerned about color-blind merit. I disagree with him on gay marriage though. And yes, the law should also allow polygamy. If a man wants to marry a woman, a man, two women, two men, or a man and a woman, how is that the business of government or other people if everyone consents to the arrangement? Pedophilia involves children, so consenting adults are not the issue there. Mr. Sowell's bus analogy is also weak, because one can argue that whether heterosexual, bisexual, or homosexual, everyone is doing exactly the same thing: being in romantic relationships and/or getting laid. As longtime readers know, I cannot have children. Using Mr. Sowell's logic, I shouldn't be allowed to get married because the union is absolutely guaranteed to not produce children. What about infertile couples? Should, say, actors Angela Bassett and Courtney Vance been prohibited from getting married?
Posted by Shay at 11/04/2008
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